Comments on: Land of the Free to Get your Head Kicked In http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/ Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:12:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Geezer http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-41524 Geezer Fri, 23 Sep 2011 03:00:43 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-41524 Im very late to this but its notable how zealous the forces of the state are when it comes to border control and the movement of white folks. Yet these thugs are AWOL on the southern border while untold millions of Mexicans and others gradually destroy the US through mass immigration lega & illegal. Why is this? Well its obviously policy. Nice white liberal types are reminded about heavy handed border control thus when confronted with the invasion can claim its not strictly true, that control is being enforced "Look at what happened to that Canadian guy - if they can treat him like that just think what they do to poor mexicans" But of course they dont. Ive met Irish & British people with similar (less violent) stories about harsh treatment. Im very late to this but its notable how zealous the forces of the state are when it comes to border control and the movement of white folks. Yet these thugs are AWOL on the southern border while untold millions of Mexicans and others gradually destroy the US through mass immigration lega & illegal.

Why is this?

Well its obviously policy. Nice white liberal types are reminded about heavy handed border control thus when confronted with the invasion can claim its not strictly true, that control is being enforced “Look at what happened to that Canadian guy – if they can treat him like that just think what they do to poor mexicans” But of course they dont.

Ive met Irish & British people with similar (less violent) stories about harsh treatment.

]]> By: review of ClickBank Inner Circle http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-29470 review of ClickBank Inner Circle Wed, 18 May 2011 06:20:28 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-29470 Cool read. It's nice to know more about law enforcement officers. Cool read.
It’s nice to know more about law enforcement officers.

]]> By: John http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-5275 John Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:48:08 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-5275 "You guys that are willing to take the side of Peter Watts based on just his account of what happened are just as dangerous as those horrible cops you are critical of." Yes, because the average person trying to cross the border has the same powers and authority as cops. What the fuck are you talking about? There is not and never will be a "just as bad" in any confrontation between civilians and cops. The police have power of life and death over the rest of us and also a record of routinely abusing that power, there is no reason whatsoever to take their side or give them the benefit of a doubt without massive evidence in their favor. “You guys that are willing to take the side of Peter Watts based on just his account of what happened are just as dangerous as those horrible cops you are critical of.”

Yes, because the average person trying to cross the border has the same powers and authority as cops. What the fuck are you talking about? There is not and never will be a “just as bad” in any confrontation between civilians and cops. The police have power of life and death over the rest of us and also a record of routinely abusing that power, there is no reason whatsoever to take their side or give them the benefit of a doubt without massive evidence in their favor.

]]> By: Leon http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-2305 Leon Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:50:05 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-2305 Looks like there is a fundraiser to bring Dr Watts to WorldCon in Australia. http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14/fundraiser-to-bring.html Looks like there is a fundraiser to bring Dr Watts to WorldCon in Australia.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14/fundraiser-to-bring.html

]]> By: Richard http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-1308 Richard Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:18:44 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-1308 @ Tech Hunk You are a fucking asshole. You will not post here again @ Tech Hunk

You are a fucking asshole. You will not post here again

]]> By: Tech-Hunk http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-1288 Tech-Hunk Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:40:26 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-1288 I wonder if peter enjoyed it. I wonder if peter enjoyed it.

]]> By: harriet hedgehog http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-987 harriet hedgehog Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:06:18 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-987 There are rather different styles of law enforcement in Canada, here they order me out of my motor home to question or berate! It appears this is a control tactic as there are two cops, only one of me.<br />In the US, especially at the border, it is essential to realize that you are dealing with Grade 10, uneducated, power crazy, INS - inspired thugs who under Homeland Security and the Patriot Act think they can do what they want. The INS officers are the same ignoramuses and even the President cannot override their decisions.<br />This conviction should be overturned on appeal, small comfort to Peter though. Our American friends need to get busy overturning the Draconian measures put in place by Bush; measures that have turned the Land of the Free into a dangerous place to visit for non-US citizens - it ain't too safe for Americans either! There are rather different styles of law enforcement in Canada, here they order me out of my motor home to question or berate! It appears this is a control tactic as there are two cops, only one of me.
In the US, especially at the border, it is essential to realize that you are dealing with Grade 10, uneducated, power crazy, INS – inspired thugs who under Homeland Security and the Patriot Act think they can do what they want. The INS officers are the same ignoramuses and even the President cannot override their decisions.
This conviction should be overturned on appeal, small comfort to Peter though. Our American friends need to get busy overturning the Draconian measures put in place by Bush; measures that have turned the Land of the Free into a dangerous place to visit for non-US citizens – it ain’t too safe for Americans either!

]]> By: rockitboy http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-989 rockitboy Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:06:16 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-989 Hey Richard,<br /> <br />Heard about the verdict? It sucks ass. Hey Richard,

Heard about the verdict? It sucks ass.

]]> By: Richard Morgan http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-988 Richard Morgan Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:06:16 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-988 Yeah, still trying to get up enough heart to post anything about it that isn't just an incoherent scream of rage. Yeah, still trying to get up enough heart to post anything about it that isn’t just an incoherent scream of rage.

]]> By: redrichie http://www.richardkmorgan.com/news/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in/comment-page-2/#comment-990 redrichie Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:06:15 +0000 http://reattemptingimportofcomments.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/land-of-the-free-to-get-your-head-kicked-in#comment-990 <b>@Forest</b><br /><br />Hey man, you're being a little unfair there, I had (really!) no intention to cause offence. <br /><br />I think, on this issue, we're basically in agreement, non?<br /><br />I really have no intention of getting into an online fight: it's fairly pointless, so if my language seemed slightly intemperate earlier - apologies. However, the bulk of what I said still applies. I did read your post. In it, you say: "You seem to believe that this is somehow a massive shock that this happened and <b>would never occur in your neck of the woods.</b>" And then, "That having been said please don't forget about the horrible atrocities your law enforcement have been committing under Section 44 with little or no recourse for your citizen ship." After talking about your disgust for the US guy.<br /><br />Fair enough if you're using that as an illustration of the perils of the abuse of power, but that's really not how it reads (you do at the end say that <b>all</b> officers need to come away from power if this is how they behave). It does read like somebody suggesting that we should be talking about something else; we aren't, we are talking about the actions of an officer in one country. If I'm entering the US for any reason, I'm really not that bothered at that moment now some idiot in uniform at that moment is acting in the UK, am I?<br /><br />That said, you accuse me of attacking you and not the issue? I think that's deeply unfair. In a conversation about the actions of a law officer in one country, in the context of that one country, where complaint is made about implied condescension on the part of the author with then quite heavy reference to another (irrelevant) country, then that is an example of a particular piece of rhetoric (that's all I meant by rhetorical trick - nothing more). So before accusing me of anything (in a personal attack, no less) consider that. I was merely questioning the way that you chose to do so. It's a common complaint of journalists that talk about complex issues, they'll get abuse because they criticise the actions of one country against another in one week from supporters of the first country who say that they should be talking about the actions of the other country against them (even though the next week they may well be!). It's possible for there to be bad things in more than one place and to be outraged by both.<br /><br />I actually made no reference whatsoever to you personally! Surely it's better that I talk about the <i>way</i> that you choose to do something than to talk about you as a person? <br /><br />Given that we agree, peace? @Forest

Hey man, you’re being a little unfair there, I had (really!) no intention to cause offence.

I think, on this issue, we’re basically in agreement, non?

I really have no intention of getting into an online fight: it’s fairly pointless, so if my language seemed slightly intemperate earlier – apologies. However, the bulk of what I said still applies. I did read your post. In it, you say: “You seem to believe that this is somehow a massive shock that this happened and would never occur in your neck of the woods.” And then, “That having been said please don’t forget about the horrible atrocities your law enforcement have been committing under Section 44 with little or no recourse for your citizen ship.” After talking about your disgust for the US guy.

Fair enough if you’re using that as an illustration of the perils of the abuse of power, but that’s really not how it reads (you do at the end say that all officers need to come away from power if this is how they behave). It does read like somebody suggesting that we should be talking about something else; we aren’t, we are talking about the actions of an officer in one country. If I’m entering the US for any reason, I’m really not that bothered at that moment now some idiot in uniform at that moment is acting in the UK, am I?

That said, you accuse me of attacking you and not the issue? I think that’s deeply unfair. In a conversation about the actions of a law officer in one country, in the context of that one country, where complaint is made about implied condescension on the part of the author with then quite heavy reference to another (irrelevant) country, then that is an example of a particular piece of rhetoric (that’s all I meant by rhetorical trick – nothing more). So before accusing me of anything (in a personal attack, no less) consider that. I was merely questioning the way that you chose to do so. It’s a common complaint of journalists that talk about complex issues, they’ll get abuse because they criticise the actions of one country against another in one week from supporters of the first country who say that they should be talking about the actions of the other country against them (even though the next week they may well be!). It’s possible for there to be bad things in more than one place and to be outraged by both.

I actually made no reference whatsoever to you personally! Surely it’s better that I talk about the way that you choose to do something than to talk about you as a person?

Given that we agree, peace?

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